VIETNAM ISSUE

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PLEASE EXCUSE TYPOS

September 30th 2015 added 20% more

copyright 1999-2009
updated 2011
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NOTE MOST WATCHES IN THE FREE PDF SYSTEM ARE RESTORED BY ROCK\\

ETSY MILITARYWATCHBOX GOLDSMITHWORKS TIMEFRAUD
GOLDSMITHTRAINING VINTAGE TIME RE-MADE IN AMERICA
TIME COLLECTORS

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VINTAGE-WATCH-SALE

A-US GOVERNMENT ISSUED VIETNAM WAR WATCHES
B- A SECTION ON FAKE & COUNTERFEITS
C- READ BEFORE BUYING VIETNAM
ERA MILITARY WATCH

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BOTH ARE FAKES

THERE WERE NEVER ANY BRAND NAMES ON THE DIALS
OF US NAVY ARMY MARINES OR AIR FORCE WATCHES

I HAVE PUT THIS FREE VIETNAM MILITARY WATCH PDF TOGETHER
TO OFFER A TOOL THAT WILL ADVISE YOU ON VMW WATCHES

IT BEGINS WITH A WALTHAM WATCH COMPANY LETTER
REQUESTING TO PLACE THE WALTHAM BRAND ON THE DIAL
WHICH IS DENIED. THUS DEMONSTRATING DON’T INVEST IN A
WATCH WITH BRANDING ON DIAL UNLESS THERE IS A REASON.

FOR THE NAVY SEALS IN THE NAM. THERE WAS ONLY ONE WATCH EVER MADE WITH A NAVY CONTRACT OUT SIDE OF THE BRIEF “CANTEEN WATCH BACK PRE WWII. A DIVE WATCH WHERE THE CONTRACT WAS WORKED BY BULOVA AND WHERE BULOVA CREATED A BEAUTY THEN DECIDED TO USE SOME TECHNOLOGY FOR THE 333 AND 666 AND MADE MORE CASE THAN [BLANCPAIN] DID AS TONEK RAYVILLE [THERE TEMP US COMP] SET UP TO COMPLETE THE CONTRACT EARLY 1963 AND PRODUCED 15000 TORNEK RAYVILLE SEAWOLF. DIVE WATCHES. THE ONLY MADE FOR THE US NAVY SEAL DIVE WATCHES I AM AWARE OF.
— [NOTE… NO, THEY DID NOT HAVE ROLEX OR OTHER FAIRLY TAIL WATCHES UNLESS THEY BOUGHT THEM THEM SELVES!!! ] —
THE VIETNAM NAVY WATCH WAS THE TORNEK RAYVILLE, 15000 WERE BUILT. IT WAS BUILT BY BLANCPAIN UNDER THE” TORNEK RAYVILLE” BRAND . IT WAS THE 1956 TO 1963 THREE CONTRACTS BULOVA PROTOTYPE TURNED OVER TO BLANCPAIN OF THE FIFTY FATHOMS FAME WHICH FEATURED MOST OF THE INVENTIONS OF BULOVA! JUST GOOGLE GOLDSMITHWORKS BULOVA BENRUS WARS LETTERS DIVE VIETNAM]

HEY, COPY/SAVE THIS BELOW 4 RESEARCH

GO DROP IN GOOGLE

” GOLDSMITHWORKS VIETNAM WATCH “
” GOLDSMITHWORKS VIETNAM ZODIAC “
“GOLDSMITHWORKS WWI TRENCH CUFF CONVERSION”

“GOLDSMITHWORKS WWII WATCHES”
“GOLDSMITHWORKS JAPAN WWII IMPERIAL”
“GOLDSMITHWORKS GERMAN WWII WATCHES”

AS EACH GOOGLE PAGE RETURN APPEARS, SIMPLY GO TO TOP OF PAGE
SELECT “IMAGES”
CLICK ANY OF THE HUNDREDS OF IMAGES TO VIEW
THE COMPLETE RESTORE OF EACH WATCH

A WALTHAM LETTER REQUESTING THE APPLICATION OF THEIR BRAND TO DIAL

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A REPLY TO A WALTHAM LETTER WANTING TO PLACE “WALTHAM” NAME ON MILITARY DIAL

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REPLY STATES NAY

A. NO TRADE MARKINGS ON FACE DIAL ARE ALLOWED
B. THE DIAL SHOULD BE KEPT FREE FROM FROM UNNECESSARY MARKS
C. TRADE MARKS SHOULD BE MARKED ON CASE BACKS

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NO NAMES WERE/ARE WRITTEN ON DIALS
BRANDING ALLOWED ON CASE BACKS ONLY
NO LONGINES NO OMEGA NO LE-COULTRE NO OTHER HIGH END BRANDS
NO COMPLICATED SPECS WERE REQUIRED

THE ONLY WATCH BRANDS WERE

BENRUS HAMILTON WESTCLOX BELFORTE TIMEX
[TORNEK RAYVILLE HAD ONE TIME SEAL DIVE CONTRACT IT IS FURTHER BELOW]

INFO ON CASES AND BASE SPECS
SEVEN JEWEL MOVEMENT- METAL / PLASTIC CASES- SINGLE ONE PIECE CASES
ACCESS MOVEMENT THROUGH CRYSTAL- NO SERVICE REQUIRED
ALL THROW AWAY- MUST LAST 2 YEARS – NO SCREW BACKS – NO AUTOMATICS

GOOGLE:
“GOLDSMITHWORKS BENRUS BULOVA VIETNAM WATCH WAR”

Fraud/Counterfeits GO HTTP://TIMEFRAUD.COM

MOST OF THOSE OFFERED ON EBAY ARE OUT RIGHT FAKES
NO SCREW BACKS NO “WWW” STAMPED NO BROAD ARROW
NO NAME SIGNED ON DIAL NO OMEGA NO LONGINES NO LE COULTRE
SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO VIEW THE MOVEMENT FROM THE BACK OF WATCH SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY NAME ON BACK BUT BENRUS HAMILTON WESTCLOX BELFORTE OR TIMEX SHOULD HAVE WATCH DATE 1965 TO 1972 ON BACK SHOULD HAVE A BELOW WATCH MODEL CODE FROM 1965 TO 1972 ON BACK

WE HAVE MOST CONTRACTS AND SPEC SHEETS ONLINE MIL-W-3818B_Spec.pdf CONTACT IF REQUIRED

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MIL-W 3818A

ABOVE SPEC SHEET NOTE NO NAME?? OK???
IF YOU SEE A BRAND NAME??? ITS A FAKE

I AM A VIET VET. MANY VETS HARDLY SAW A WATCH./ 12 MONTH TURN AROUND MEANT TURN AROUND. I FORGET THE NUMBERS BUT 7 TO 8 MIL SERVED. I WOULD SAY 3 MILLION WATCHES. MOST AIR CREWS. MOST SQUAD LEADERS. THERE WERE QUIT A FEW.

AND . THAT ORDER? 10.000 AND CHANGE WERE GONE IN THE FIRST MONTH. MILLIONS WERE ORDERED.

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RESTORED BY ROCK GREEN BERET 3818A

Oct-Oct/1961_bulova_hacking_3818a.html

MIL-W-3818A WAS THE A-11 OF 1950’S THE A-17. THE US CONTRACT
WAS A FIRST FOR 24HR CHAPTER. ALL THESE WATCHES HACKED.
MOST WERE NOT MARKED WITH MAKER ON DIAL. GREEN BERET
SOLDIERS RECEIVED THE A VERSION.TWO PIECE CASE.-REMOVABLE CASE BACK

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MIL-W 3818B
DTU-2A/P


SINGLE CASE 1968 DTU-2A/P BENRUS RESTORED BY ROCK

MIL-W 3818b WAS THE FIRST FULLY RE DESIGNED MIL WATCH THAT RECEIVED
THE NAME DTU-2A/P . THE FIRST CONTRACT WAS FOR 10,000+ UNITS FOR THE MARINES.
BENRUS WON IT AND BULOVA PROTESTED BUT LOST. THIS WAS THE VERY FIRST TO USE THE ABOVE SPECS

SINGLE CASE. CRYSTAL REMOVED TO INSTALL MOVEMENT SIGNED ON BACK
CONT.NO. GS-00S-61940 SERIAL NO xxxxxx
DATE June 1969
WRIST WATCH DTU-2A/P MIL-W-3818B
MFG. PART. NO XZ73065
FED STOCK NO 6645-066-4279
U.S.MIL-W-46374 OD Plastic CASE OK


RESTORED BY ROCK PLASTIC MIL-W-46374A

The next version [1 ]MIL-W-46374 AND THE [2]MIL-W-46374A-
– version permitting plastic 1970-1975.BENRUS WESTCLOX
HAMILTON. SINGLE CASE. CRYSTAL REMOVED TO INSTALL MOVEMENT

SIGNED ON BACK

1-U.S. Wristwatch General purpose Non-Maintainable
MIL-W-46374
Fed. Stock No.6645-952-3767
APR 1969

2-Watch-wrist General purpose Non-Maintainable [PLASTIC OK]
Mil-W-46374A
Westclox No. 75062
FSN 6645-952-3767
DAAA25-70-D-0335
Sept 1970
US

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MIL-W-3818A
THE FIRST SPECIFIC WATCHES UTILIZED IN NAM WAS THE 3818A
WHICH WAS UTILIZED BY GREEN BERET / SPECIAL FORCES

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NOTE IT HAS THE LOOK OF A-11/A-17 HACK BUT LABELED 3818A HACK
DTU-2AP.-MIL-W-3818B

NOTE THE BULOVA?????? MY PATRON ASKED FOR THE NAME WHEN I RESTORED THE DIAL

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THEN A CONTRACT WAS AWARDED TO BENRUS. BENRUS PRODUCED THE FIRST VIETNAM WATCH AND IT WAS THE FIRST SINGLE CASE SYSTEM WITH TWO PART CRYSTAL LOCKING MIL-W-3818B KNOWN AS DTU-2AP. ALL WATCHES AFTER THE BENRUS WERE SINGLE CASE. STEEL AND PLASTIC. BENRUS BUILT 10,000 FOR THE MARINE CORPS. FOLLOWED UP THE MIL-W-3818A. [U.S. VIETNAM WATCHES WERE NON-MAINTENANCE. THEY HAD TO LAST 2 YEARS WITH NO REPAIRS]

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MILITARY WATCHES USA ORDINANCE ISSUE
DPU-2A/P MIL-W-3118B MIL-W-3818B_Sepcifications.pdf
MIL-W-4637 milspec-mil-w-46374f.PDF AVAILABLE 3118
specifications pdf 4637 specifications pdf

BULOVA PROTESTS THE BENRUS AWARD OF MILITARY
WATCH CONTRACT VIETNAM ISSUE

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WESTCLOX 7 JEWEL NO DIAL BRAND NAME

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HAMILTON STEEL CASE NO DIAL BRAND NAME

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BENRUS STEEL CASE NOTE NO DIAL BRAND NAME

NOTE THERE WERE NO OMEGA LA-COULTRE IWC OR ANY OF THE FAKES SOLD ON THE BAY. NO US ARMY OR US NAVY. NOTE NONE OF THESE HAVE BRAND NAMES

 

1968 Belforte
& Benrus plastic
3818A 1968-benrus
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1967 BENRUS SINGLE
MIL-W-3818 – 2A/P
Photobucket
1972 Metal Hamilton.

1970 Jeambrun/Seiko
plastic Westclox

1965 Benrus “hack” DTU-2A/P

1969
Belforte & Benrus

1965 Plastic Benrus
MIL-W-3818B

Hamilton W-46374A

GG-W-113
 

1968 Belforte
& Benrus plastic
3818A 1968-benrus
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1967 BENRUS SINGLE
MIL-W-3818 – 2A/P
Photobucket
1972 Metal Hamilton.

1970 Jeambrun/Seiko
plastic Westclox

1965 Benrus “hack” DTU-2A/P

1969
Belforte & Benrus

1965 Plastic Benrus
MIL-W-3818B

Hamilton W-46374A

GG-W-113
 

MIL-W-46374A AND B & GG-W-113

MIL-W-46374A AND B & GG-W-113

The MIL-W-46374 series of U.S. Military wrist watches began with specification publication dated 30 October 1964. as a “U.S. Wristwatch Non-Maintainable”. The MIL-W-46374B was required to have a 7 jewel manual wind mechanical movement, stainless steel case and acrylic crystal- though some plastic B series watches occasionally show up.The strap was OD nylon with a black anodized steel buckle. Typical markings for the MIL-W-46374B watches will be these lines from the only two manufacturers. On May 7 1975, AFTER VIETNAM the MIL-W-46374B was required to have a “H3? and radiation symbol on the dial to warn that luminous tritium paint was used. H3. THUS WE HAVE The MIL-W-46374B 3818A 3818B DTU-2A/P AND GG-W-113

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I DID NOT WANT TO FORGET THE FIRST CUSTOM NAVY SEAL WATCH. THE FIRST W/MOISTURE INDICATOR THE FIRST DEEP SEA [NOT ROLEX], THE FIRST PLASTIC CRYSTAL FOR THE DEEP SEA, [ HERE IS A POP UP OF THE SPECS. ] ORIGINALLY 75+% BULOVA DESIGNED TECHNOLOGY, [BLANCPAIN] TORNEK RAYVILLE COMPLETED. 15000 UNITS IF I AM CORRECT, ANOTHER LINK SO WE HAVE MILITARY STYLE REDUNDANCY1961 MIL-W-22176 AND 1961 MIL-W-22176-A

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YOU NEED ANOTHER PAGE. NOT EVERY THING. BUT A LOT OF WHAT YOU WILL REQUIRE ‘CAUSE IT HAS THE GHOSTS OF THE BROWN WATERS OF NAM….. THOSE ELUSIVE STORIES OF THE MEN WHOM WORE THE WATCHES WHILE CONDUCTING THE MISSIONS THAT MATTERED THE MOST… AND THEN THOSE OTHER WATCHES THAT FALSELY ROSE TO CLAIM A SPOT ON SOME VAGRANT LIST AS A ABSENT THEY WERE AS VAGRANTS MISSING IN THOSE ACTIONS… .

SO, READ THIS …BUT RECALL THAT I STATED THAT BULOVA ACTUALLY MASTERED SEVERAL TECHNOLOGIES THAT BLANCPAIN DID NOT POSSESS. THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A BULOVA AND NOT TORNEK/BLANCPAIN.

YET TODAY WE READ HOW THE FIFTY FATHOMS WAS THIS AND THAT AND THE FIRST AT THIS AND THAT.

BUT, THE USA MIL DID NOT CONTRACT WITH BLANCPAIN, AND THE TORNEK WAS NOT BORN AS A FIFTY FATHOM BECAUSE INFECT IT WAS ALL BULOVA BUT 25% ….

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Case designations: PLA = plastic, CRM = corrosion resistant metal; STS = stainless steel . Movement designations: ## j = number of jewels; QTZ = electronic quartz mvt, MEC =manual wind mechanical mvt.; HCK = hacking

US ARMY SPECIFICATION NO. 94-27834-B, dated FEBRUARY 22, 1943 – WATCH, NAVIGATION, TYPE A-11 (HACK):F. METHOD OF INSPECTION AND TESTS:

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1961 SEAL DIVE DIAL

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ABOVE ARE PLASTIC CASED MIL-W-46374B

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Mil-W-46374A
Westclox No. 75092
FSN 6645-952-3767
DAAA25-70-D-0335
Sept 1970
US

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WATCH, Wrist General Purpose MIL-W-46374B Timex Corp. NSN 6645-08-952-3767 Mfg. Part No.DLA 406-81-C-2671Feb 1982
Dispose Rad Waste U.S. POST VIETNAM

VIETNAM SERVICE

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THE MIL-W-4637 WAS MADE IN 20 STYLES HERE ARE
6 CASES MIL-W-4637 4 THROUGH 4A – 4G 9 1970-1991

MILITARY WATCHES USA
NOTE DATES NUMBERS STYLES

L-W-46374 (published10/30/1964)

      Maker   Type   FSN/NSN   Case   Movement   Dates   Notes:    
  Benrus na 6645-952-3767 PLA 7 j MEC 1966-1969    
  Belforte na 6645-952-3767 PLA 7 j MEC 1965 Benrus  

MIL-W-46374A (published 9/10/1968)

      Maker   Type   FSN/NSN   Case   Movement   Dates   Notes:    
  Benrus na 6645-00-952-3767 PLA 7 j MEC 1970-1976    
  Westclox na 6645-00-952-3767 PLA Seiko MEC 1970    
  Hamilton na 6645-00-952-3767 CRM 7 j MEC 1970 – 1975(?) Australian Army  
  Hamilton na 6645-00-952-3767 CRM 7 j MEC 1972-1975 US Issue; Part No. 39988  

MIL-W-46374B (published 5/7/1975)

      Maker   Type   FSN/NSN   Case   Movement   Dates   Notes:    
  Hamilton na 6645-00-952-3767 CRM 7j MEC 1977-1983 Part no. 39988  
  Timex na 6645-00-952-3767 PLA Timex #24 MEC 1982 Limited distribution  

MIL-W-46374C (published 4/15/1983)

      Maker   Type   FSN/NSN   Case   Movement   Dates   Notes:    
  Stocker & Yale na 6645-00-952-3767 PLA 1 j MEC 1983-1984 SandY 184  

MIL-W-46374D (published 10/10/1986)

      Maker   Type   FSN/NSN   Case   Movement   Dates   Notes:    
  Stocker & Yale Type 2 6645-00-952-3767 PLA 1 j MEC 1984-1986 SandY 184A  
  Marathon Type 2 6645-00-952-3767 PLA MEC 1990 Model 348  
  Hamilton Type 1 6645-00-066-4279 CRM 17j MEC HCK 1988 39986; Hamilton  

MIL-W-46374E (published 5/31/1989)

      Maker   Type   FSN/NSN   Case   Movement   Dates   Notes:    
  Marathon Type 2 6645-01-304-4308 PLA 17j MEC 1991 Mod. 348A; tritium vials introduced  
  Stocker & Yale Type 1 6645-00-066-4279 PLA 17j MEC HCK 1991 SandY 490; tritium vials  

MIL-W-46374F (published 10/14/1991)

      Maker   Type   FSN/NSN   Case   Movement   Dates   Notes:    
  Marathon Type 1 6645-00-066-4279 PLA 17j MEC HCK 199?- 2000 Model 348 A  
  Marathon Type 2 6645-00-952-3767 PLA ??j mech 1997 Model 359  
  Marathon Type 3 6645-01-318-9833 PLA QTZ HCK 199? Model 350A  
  Marathon Type 6 6645-01-364-4042 PLA QTZ HCK 1997 – 2001 Model 211, Navigators  
  Stocker & Yale Type 1 6645-00-066-4279 PLA 17j MEC HCK 1993-199? SandY 490; ETA 2801 movement  
  Stocker & Yale Type 3 6645-01-252-6705 PLA QTZ HCK 199? SandY 590  
  Stocker & Yale Type 6 6645-01-364-4042 PLA QTZ HCK 1995-2000 P650 Navigators  
  Stocker & Yale Type 6 6645-01-364-4042 STS QTZ HCK 1995-1998 P660 Navigators  
                 

MIL-PRF-46374G (published 12/11/1999)

US GOV ISSUED 1968 VIETNAM WAR SINGLE PLASTIC CASE WESTCLOX MILITARY WATCH

MOVERMENT VERSIONS
M101 26D 7J 1965 – 1968 MIL VERSION D407 7J 1965 -1968 MIL VERSION
A 201 17J VERSION M101 26D 17J 1968 MIL VERSION M102 26D 21J 1968 MIL VERSION

NOTE. THE VIETNAM WAR HAD PX/BX R&R WATCHES.
THESE ARE SOME TO LOOK FOR.
WESTCLOX

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NOT THE WATCH THE MOVEMENT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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1962 Westclox
OWNED BY SF MEMBER

PX R&R 1970-1971
SAME WESTCLOX DIAL

PX R&R 1965-1967
SAME WESTCLOX DIAL

WESTCLOX SOLD AND GAVE AWAY A FEW HUNDRED WESTCLOX WATCHES TO US SPECIAL FORCES ADVISORS IN VIETNAM IN THE LATE 1950’S TO EARLY 1960’S. THE DESIGN FEATURES OF THESE TIME PIECES AS WELL AS THEIR STAMINA IN THE FIELD WOULD FIND THEIR WAY INTO A SERIES OF MILITARY WATCHES THAT WOULD PROVE NOT ONLY TO BE RUGGED AND EXCEPTIONAL, BUT ABLE TO LAST IN THE JUNGLES OF VIETNAM ACCORDING TO THE “GOV MUST DO” -LAST TWO YEARS W/O SERVICE . THUS THIS WOULD GAIN WESTCLOX ONE OF THOSE US MILITARY CONTRACTS FOR THOUSANDS OF US MILITARY ISSUE WATCHES FOR TROOPS IN VIETNAM.

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JAPANESE 2 VERSIONS

1968 MIL VERSION 7J
1970 MIL VERSION 7J
1969 M102 21J HK
1964 17J HK

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FRENCH 4 VERSIONS SWISS WITH 4 SQUARE    
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POPULAR PX/BX R&R
ZODIAC GMT SEIKO 6105 ZODIAC SEA WOLF
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1955-1969 HELBROS TRUE 24HR VIETNAM ERA WYLER HELBROS DIVE
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BULOVA 666 333 CARAVEL BENRUS DIVE 1968 SEIKO 6106 8100
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1968 SEIKO 6119 7170 1965 WALTHAM 24HR WYLER 666
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<<<< HELO TO JET

THE ZODIAC GMT AEROSPACE
WAS ALSO TOP OF THE LIST. 24 HR & HACKING>>>>>

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THE KEY IS TO TAKE YOUR TIME. I CANNOT DO MORE THAN THIS DUE TO SIZE OF FILE. BUT, YOU MAY RESEARCH THE NUMBERS WITH DATES. NOTE THE INFO BELOW. THIS WILL ALLOW YOUR INVESTMENT TO BE CORRECT. I HAVE COVERED MOST OF THE LEGITIMATE WATCHES ABOVE. THERE WERE SOME PROTOTYPES. REMEMBER, THE BRITISH DID NOT BECOME INVOLVED IN ANY MANOR IN VIETNAM. NOT SUPPLYING, CONTRIBUTING OR EVEN ASSISTING. NO CROWS FOOT ON WATCH BACK. TO WWW ON WATCH BACK. NO WWII TYPE CASE BACKS. NOT EVEN THROUGH THE AUSSIES— THAT IS AUSTRALIANS. THE AUSTRALIANS AND SOUTH KOREANS WEE MAJOR PARTNERS. BUT REMEMBER, SEE A WWW ON CAE BACK. A BROAD ARROW STOP. TURN LEFT. CLICK MOVE ON. YOU MAY VIEW OUR ARTICLES AND TONS OF DATA ON 20 WEBSITES. JUST USE OUR LIVE SEARCH THIS WILL PRODUCE THE INFO THAT PROVIDES DATA WITH THIS pdf. LATER ROCK/ I HAD OVER WHAT? 30 TO 40,000 DOWNLOADS OF THIS PDF! LOTS OF BANDWIDTH I AM HAPPY IT IS POPULAR. I ADDED MORE

LATER ROCK

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NOT EVEN A WALTHAM NOT GENUINE

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LONGINES NEVER MADE THIS WATCH MOVEMENT
AVIGATION NAVIGATION SPECIFICATION SPELLED WRONG

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ANY OFFER WITH YELLOW COLOR THERE ARE NO INFO ON EDGES
AND NAME NO GO CASES DID NOT SCREW OFF SOLID ONE PIECE

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HAMILTON NEVER MADE MOV LONGINES NEVER MADE WATCHES FOR NAM
ALSO, LOOKS LIKE THE FAKE LONGINES

 

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NEVER WERE THEY SCREW BACKS
AND NAVIG AND OTHER ITEMS ARE WRONG

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AGAIN LONGINES NEVER MADE
VIETNAM US GOV WATCHES
PLUS SPELLING IS WRONG

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FAKE LONGINES AGAIN

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JAG LA COULTRE NEVER MADE WATCHES FOR US OR ANYONE NOT THE CHEAP MOVEMENT.

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NOTE THE YELLOW MARKERS AND HANDS THE BOLOVA ON DIAL

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FAKE BULOVA

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NOT NOT NOT FAKE

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GENUINE BULOVA HACKING MOVEMENT

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I HIGHLY DOUBT THIS CHEAP VIETNAM
CHINA MOV HACKS!NOTE THE
CASE BACK HAS SEAGULL STAMP FAKE

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NOR A HAMILTON HACKING MOVEMENT

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THE A-17 ABOVE MADE FOR
KOREAN WAR AS THE KOREAN WAR A-11 IS CORRECT

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GG-W-1338 BUT THE ABOVE IS
FAKE NOTE DOUBLE STAMP ON
US DATE 1969 IT SHOULD BE S
INGLE CASE NO CASE BACK TO REMOVE.

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THE BIGGEST FAKE OMEGA DID NOT MAKE US ISSUE WATCHES PLUS SEE THE YELLOW?

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ALSO HAD FAKE MOVEMENT

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BREITLING NEVER MADE US
MILITARY ISSUE WATCHES

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ANOTHER FAKE BREITLING
NEVER WAS THAT THERE CHINESE CASE ALSO

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DUMP THESE YELLOW CHINESE FAKES

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BREITLING NEVER MADE THIS CHEAP MOVEMENT
NOR DID THEY EVER MAKE A US ISSUE

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YOU CAN SHOUT TILL YOU ARE BLUE IN THE FACE
THESE WERE NO BRITS IN VIETNAM NOR DID THEY SUPPLY WATCHES THIS HAS US NAVY THE THE BRITISH WWII W.W.W.STOOD FOR WRIST WATCH WATERPROOF ONLY ENGLISH USED THIS

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HERE WE SEE A7A THAT MEANS DUMP IT

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FAKE A-7 NOTE THE MISSPELLING

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THIS IS WHAT THE SINGLE
CASE SYSTEM LOOKS LIKE

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FAKE NO ONE WAS ALLOWED
TO PLACE NAMES ON DIAL

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NOTE THE CHINES/VIETNAMESE
YELLOW COLORED NUMBERS AND HANDS

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REMEMBER CASE BACKS DO NOT COME OFF
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NO US MIL WATCH WAS AUTOMATIC

SOME DIALS MAY HAVE NAME IN DIAL NON PAINTED
A FEW ELGINS I SAW REQUIRED GETTING CLOSE AND SEEING A SLIGHT “ELGIN” INDENT

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NO US NAVY OR US ARMY NEVER HAPPENED YELLOW LOOK NEVER HAPPENED ANY THING
WITH BRITISH BROAD ARROW NEVER HAPPENEDAUTOMATICS NEVER HAPPENED A-7 NEVER HAPPENED

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WOW REAL FAKE NO AUTOMATICS

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FAKE J A C DID NOT MAKE
WATCHES FOR NAM NOR FOR TROOPERS

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FAKE NO US NAVY WWW IS A BRITISH MARK WWII WRIST WATCH WATERPROOF
HAD NO FACT IN VIETNAM NO BRITS NOR WATCHE

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100% FAKE NOT COUNTERFEIT WATCHES

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LOOK FOR HUNDREDS OF OFFERS ALL LOOKING THE SAME

UPDATE: THEY CHANGED THEIR BACK GROUNDS AGAIN. WHICH MEANS OUR WORKS ARE BEING FOLLOWED!JUST LOOK FOR OFFERS THAT ARE THE SAME ACROSS SELLERS. HERE WE HAVE TWO FAKES. THESE ARE NOT COUNTERFEIT, BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER MADE BY THE COMPANIES ATTRIBUTED TO IN THE SIGNINGS ON THE MOVEMENTS. THUS THEY WERE NOT ISSUED BY THE COMPANIES UNDER ANY CONTRACT AND ARE NOT IN ANY US GOV CONTRACT SPECS. THEY ARE FAKES SOLD AS SOMETHING THEY ARE NOT. FRAUD. THE BOTTOM LEFT IS A FAKE BREITLING AND THE MOVEMENT IS THE SAME AS THE BOTTOM RIGHT FAKE JAEGER LECOULTRE. NO WAY DID BREITLING AND JLC PRODUCE THE SAME MOVEMENTS.AND IN FACT, EVEN THE A-11, A-8, MIL-W-3818 38, GG-W-113, MIL-W-4637 AND OTHER US GOVERNMENT ISSUED WWII AND VIETNAM ERA MILITARY WATCH CONTRACTS PROVIDED THE MAIN PLANS, EACH VENDER/BRAND PRODUCED THEIR OWN MOVEMENTS. SO THEY WERE ALL DIFFERENT. LIKE THE BREITLING AND LECOULTRE, THE TWO TOP MOVEMENTS ARE ALSO FAKE /FRAUDULENT AN ELGIN AND WALTHAM WATCH WITH THE DEAD GIVEAWAY BEING BOTH MOVEMENTS ARE ALIKE. NEITHER ARE ACTUAL MOVEMENTS USED IN MILITARY WATCHES IN THE USA OR ANYWHERE ELSE THAT I CAN TELL . THE FACT IS MOVEMENTS OF SEPARATE BRANDS BEING EXACT IS SIMPLY UNHEARD OF IN MILITARY ISSUED WATCHES. WHEN LOOKING AT A BRAND, SEARCH THE BRAND. THEN COMPARE AGAINST OTHER BRANDS, BUT VIEWING THE MOVEMENT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

THE US GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY REQUIRED DIALS TO BE EXACTLY ALIKE. HARDLY ANY VIETNAM ERA WATCH HAD NAMES ON THE DIAL. LOOK AT THE TOP US GOV PHOTO OF ACTUAL DIALS. THEY HAD TO BE EXACT AS TO THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR THAT MODEL.

THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE CONCERNING NAMES ON DIALS WERE FEW. THE ABOVE RIGHT DIAL HAS “MFR’S NAME ” ON IT. THE SPEC CALLED FOR IT. THIS IS THE FAMOUS BULOVA FIRST NAVY AUTOMATIC DIVE WATCH CONTRACT THAT WAS ASSUMED BY BLANCPAIN .

NOTE THE DIAL IS FOR THE DIVE WATCH OUTLINED IN THE 1961 MIL-W-22176 AND 1961 + MIL-W-22176-A SPECIFICATIONS.

THIS WOULD BECOME THE PLANS FOR BLANCPAIN’S FIFTY FATHOMS. BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY DESIGNED BY THE US NAVY. SEE THE ROUND MOISTURE INDICATOR AT BOTTOM ABOVE SIX? IT WAS DESIGNED IN 1960. BLANCPAIN WOULD MAKE 10,000 WATCHES FOR THE NAVY SEALS. THEN WOULD USE THE DESIGN AS “Milspec 1” WHICH MEANT “MILITARY SPECIFICATIONS 1” (THE ACTUAL NAVEL SPECIFICATIONS ARE ON TIMEFRAUD. THUS THE DATING OF THE WATCH AND THE ACTUAL SPECIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED IN MANY CIRCUMSTANCES TO DISCOVER THE FACTS OF DIALS AND DATES OF PRODUCTION.

NOTE THE GG-W-113 HAS NO NAME.. OK? IF YOU READ CASE BACK AND IT HAS 113 THEN EXPECT NO NAME ON DIAL.

THE A-17 HAD NO NAME… IT HAD RADIUM NUMERALS. LOOK AT THE PICTURE ABOVE! IF THE DIAL LOOKS LIKE ALL THE OTHER FAKES WITH OFF BLACK DIAL WITH YELLOWISH EVERYTHING ELSE SO PERFECT AND NEAT IT IS A FAKE UNLESS DESCRIBED IN DETAIL, AND I MEAN DIAL. THE 3118A HAVE HAD BULOVA ON THE DIAL WHICH HAD TO BE ALLOWED AND REQUESTED BY CONTRACT AND SPECS!

THEY WERE ALL NOTE THAT WHEN YOU SEE THE FAKES YOU WILL RECOGNIZE THEM IF YOU SIMPLY LOOK!

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WESTCLOX BENRUS ET AL. HAD THEIR OWN MOVEMENTS AND THEY LOOK AND ARE SIGNED AND MADE DIFFERENT EVEN IF THE CASES LOOK THE SAME.

THE CASES ON US GOV MIL ISSUE MILITARY WATCHES WERE ALWAYS EXACT TO A CERTAIN DEGREE TO THE SPECS, GET THE ID FROM THE CASE BACK. THE MODEL NUMBER A GOOGLE IT BEFORE YOU INVEST OR BID. USE PICTURES TO SPEED THE PROCESS. COMPARE.

CHECK CASE BACKS FOR SPELLING ERA’ LIKE THE WORD “SPECIFICATION” OR HOW THE WRITING IMPRINTING PRESSING STAMPINGS ARE.

IF YOU KNOW IT IS A FAKE AND BUY IT EVERYONE IS GETTING RIPPED — SOMETIMES IT TAKES TIME TO KNOW, LIKE WHEN IT BREAKS AND THE WATCH MAKER SAYS I CANNOT FIX THIS FAKE

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FAKE WESTCLOX OD PLASTIC CASED VIETNAM ERA MILITARY ISSUE ARE COPIED AND FAKED . LOOK FOR SLOPPY AND MISS-ALIGNED INFO ON CASE BACK. BROAD ARROW AND WWW CASE BACKS ADVERTISED AS US GOV MIL ISSUE ARE FAKE. PERIOD. A-7 DESIGNATION ON CASE BACK ARE FAKE. PERIOD. CASE BACKS WITH SPELLING WRONG ARE FAKE, PERIOD. A-17 OR A-17A ARE FAKE IF THE DIALS ARE NOT LIKE THOSE IN THE #2 PICTURE ABOVE. AND, WITH HE EXCEPTION OF THE RARE BULOVA/BLANCPAIN NAVY DIVE WATCH EARLY 1960’S, ANY US GOV MILITARY ISSUED WATCH WITH AUTOMATIC MOVEMENT IS FRAUD FAKE AND A RIP OFF. YOU WILL HAVE TO LIE AND COMMIT FRAUD IF YOU READ THIS AND BUY ONE OR HAVE ONE AND RESELL IT AS WHAT IT IS NOT: GENUINE.

OH.. LET ME HELP YOU OUT. IT SEEMS THE SAME COMPANIES ARE MAKING UP THESE FAKES.

A) SPECIFICATION NOT SPELLED CORRECTLY 60%

B) MFR’S IS NOT SPELLED CORRECTLY

C) A-7 IS A NO BRAINER. NOT UNLESS IT IS A POCKET WATCH CHRONO LONGINES GALLET MOVEMENT ONE BIG POCKET TYPE CROWN WITH PUSHER IN left ALSO NOTE WORDS AVIGATION AND THE MISSPELLING MIR’S INSTEAD OF MRF’S AND SPICIIICATION INSTEAD OF SPECIFICATION. A FAKE SOLD ON EBAY AROUND 9-06/2012 FOR OVER 200.00 US!

D) THE CASE BACK HAS ELGIN STOCK NO 10BNCH OR WALTHAM STOCK NO 10BNCH AND THEN THESE LETTERS/NUMBERS 10BNCH . THE 10BNCH IS THE BULOVA HACKING MOVEMENT PLACED ONLY IN THE BULOVA MIL ISSUE BULOVA STOCK NO. 10BNCH. SO BULOVA STOCK NO 10BNCH WOULD BE PROPER.. BUT EVEN THEN, CHECK WHAT WE ARE SHOWING YOU .

E) BULOVA DID NOT, I REPEAT, DID NOT RECEIVE CONTRACTS FOR VIETNAM ERA GOV MIL SPEC ISSUE WATCHES. WE HAVE THE APPEAL OF BULOVA TO THE U.S. MILITARY BOARD AND THEIR DENIAL TO ALLOW BULOVA TO BE OFFERED CONTRACT FULFILLMENT. BENRUS WAS THE WINNER..

F) BRITISH MILITARY WWII AND AFTER W.W.W. [WRIST WATCH WATERPROOF] AND 1500′ ON, BRITISH BROAD ARROW DESIGNATION SPECIFICATION IS ONLY ON BRITISH WATCHES AND THE BRITISH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH VIETNAM. ALL THROUGH TIME.. LITERALLY, THE BRITISH ADDED BROAD ARROW TO CASE BACKS AND ON SOME DIALS, WWI, WWII THE 1950’S AND 1960’S, ON TIMERS IN THE 1980’S. THE BRITISH WAR DEPARTMENT ORDERED MILITARY WATCHES DESIGNATED W.W.W FOR WATCH WRIST WATERPROOF. THESE W.W.W. WATCHES WERE TO HAVE BLACK RADIUM DIALS, 15 JEWEL MOVEMENTS, SUB SECONDS- PERSPEX SHATTER RESISTANT GLASS, STRONG CASES WITH EXTRA WATER PROOFING AND LARGE CROWNS. 12 MANUFACTURERS BUREN, CYMA, ETERNA, GRANA, IWC , JLC, Lemania, LONGINES, OMEGA, RECORD, TIMOR and VERTEX] SELECTED TO FILL THE ORDERS. EACH WOULD PRODUCE WATCHES SIMILAR TO EACH OTHER. ALL WOULD HAVE SCREW DOWN CASE BACKS EXCEPT IWC, WHO UTILIZED A SNAP CASE BACK WITH A LEAD WASHER SEAL.

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ANOTHER TARGET FRAUD IS THE ORD. DEPT WATCHES WE DISCOVER FROM ASIA. OR SOMETIMES THE US BUT ARE FROM ASIA. NOTE ABOVE. THEY HAVE USED A COUNTERFEIT DIAL WITH GREEN ILLUMINATED TRIANGULAR MARKERS. THEY PLACED A HAMILTON NAME WITH THE H LOGO — DUH– SCREAMS FAKE. THEN THEY CNC THE CASE BACK. BUT THE GIVEAWAY IS THE MOVEMENTS. YOU SEE IT IS A 1950’S AUTOMATIC. NONE WERE UTILIZED IN US GOV ISSUE MIL WATCHES. AND WHY DID I SAY CNC CUT CASE BACK? THE CASE IS FOR AN AUTOMATIC. SO THEY DID NOT USE A MIL CASE, CASE BACK AND DIAL AND SIMPLY CHANGE THE MOVEMENT. THE ENTIRE ENSEMBLE IS FAKE. MEANING THE BACK CASE WAS CARVED AND NOT STAMPED – ONE CAN TELL BECAUSE IT IS NO PERFECT.

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WHEN YOU SEE CASES TAKE THE TIME TO ASK VENDER WHAT ERA, WHAT IS ON CASE BACK. THEN GOOGLE IT BEFORE YOU MAKE A BID.

THE FAKE –NOT COUNTERFEIT– US NAVY WWW WRIST WATCH IS FRAUD AT IT’S BEST. EVERY THING PART AND NOTATION IS FRAUDULENT. ALL DESIGNED TO STEAL YOUR MONEY. EVER GO TO RESELL? WELL, YOU CAN BE CHARGED WITH FRAUD! CAUSE IT IS FAKE FAKE ELGIN, OMEGA, WALTHAM , LECOULTRE, BULOVA, WESTCLOX… US NAVY US ARMY WWW BROAD ARROW DIALS ALL THE SAME MOVEMENTS THE SAME WITH DIFFERENT BRANDS, AUTOMATICS , CASES THE SAME YET UNLIKE WHAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU Google THEM…..THE US GOVERNMENT, WITH ONE EXCEPTION, THE BULOVA/BLANCPAIN NAVY DIVER, NEVER EVER CONTRACTED OR PRODUCED GOV SPECS FOR AUTOMATIC MOVEMENT WATCHES. THE ONLY ONE WAS THE DIVE WATCH WE DISCUSSED..ABOVE WE HAVE A FAKE LONGINES THE DIAL IS NOT A LONGINES DIAL THAT IS ON THE A-7 AND LONGINES NEVER MADE A DIAL LIKE THIS NO LONGINES WERE MADE FOR VIETNAM AND IN WWII LONGINES MADE MILITARY WATCHES BUT NOT THE TYPE OFFERED THROUGH US GOVERNMENT AND THE DIALS WERE WHITE OR BLACK WITH RAISED RADIUM NUMBERS WITH 24HR ALSO ON SOME. WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS MOVEMENT WE SEE CHEAP ALSO WE SEE A 360 DEGREE AUTOMATIC MEANING THE ROTOR SPINS 360 DEGREES ONLY THE BUMPER 180 WAS AVAILABLE BEFORE 1950 OR A RARE ROLEX 360. FACT IS, AS I SAID, NEVER EVER A US MILITARY WATCH NOR A LONGINES MOVEMENT

AND, AS DESCRIBED BELOW, UNDER A-7 AVIGATION, THE TYPE A-7 WAS BEFORE THE A-8 JITTERBUG NAV 1938 TIMER AND THE 1942 A-11 HACKING PILOTS WATCH . THE A-7 WAS A CHRONOGRAPH WITH GALLET CHRONO MOVEMENT WITH LARGE CROWN WITH left BUTTON IN CROWN IT WAS MORE LIKE A POCKET WATCH CASE WITH TWO SUB-DIALS ON THE MAIN DIALNOW FOR THE BIGGEST FAKE, THAT IS USING THE DESIGNATION # SPEC SHEET NO. THE NAME A-7 THE US MIL A-7 WATCH. YOU WILL SEE TONS OF WATCHES WITH A-7 ON BACK CAUSE? IT IS HARD TO FIND THE REAL A-7 SO WE DECIDED TO SHOW YOU ONE….:THE A-7 A-8 AND A-11 ARE DESIGNATIONS OF SPECIFICATIONS THAT PRODUCED MILITARY ISSUE WATCHES WW11 AND BEFORE. A) THE A-7 WAS THE 1930’S “AVIGATION” WATCH

B) THE A-8 IS THE FAMOUS JITTERBUG NAV TIMER

C) THE A-11 FAMOUS HACKING PILOTS WATCH. EACH WERE MADE FOR WW11

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THE AVIGATION WAS THOUGHT TO BE A COOL NAME FOR NAVIGATION AND AVIATION.
THE FACT IS, THIS IS THE HARDEST WATCH TO FAKE.

LOOK, BREITLING JAEGER LECOULTRE OMEGA DID NOT HAVE US MILITARY CONTRACTS FOR WATCHES. WATCHES STATED AS AMERICAN US NAVY ARMY –WHAT EVER — WITH “W.W.W. AND/OR “BROAD ARROW” ON CASE BACK ARE FAKES. THESE ARE BRITISH DESIGNATIONS -ESPECIALLY OFFERS WITH THE WORD “VIETNAM” IN THEM. NOTE NO BRAND ABOVE? AS IF THE GOV MADE THE WATCH. AN THIS OMEGA FAKE SOLD FOR SOME LARGE BUCKS. AGAIN IT WAS A FAKEIF THE MOVEMENT IS NOT SHOWN DO NOT BUY UNLESS YOU ARE SURE.SO ASK QUESTIONS OR VISIT THE HELP SITE TIMEFRAUD. TIMEFRAUD DOES NOT SELL NOR SPONSOR SALES SITES OR ANYTHING BUT EXPOSING FRAUD AND ATTEMPTING TO INSURE YOU ARE TREATED FAIRLY.TIMEFRAUD IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO POST, ADD INFORMATION AND PROVIDE ANY CORRECTIONS OF CONTENT THAT EXISTS. ALL PICTURES IN/ON TIMEFRAUD AND HERE IN THIS GUIDE ARE UTILIZED UNDER THE FREEDOM OF THE PRESS AND IST AMENDMENT CLAUSE OF THE US. CONSTITUTION. THEY ARE UTILIZED TO REPORT INFORMATION IMPORTANT TO THE PUBLIC AND AS SUCH, ANY CAUSE OR ACTION UNDER LAW SHALL BE FILED/HEARD IN THE NORTHERN DISTRICT FEDERAL COURT OF GEORGIA . IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD, OR TO CORRECT, PLEASE EMAIL THE POSTER.

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ANOTHER WATCH AND COMPASS
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i make the compartments

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GERMAN INTELLIGENCE WWII WATCH the 12th I RESTORED, SNATCHED UP FOR A RIDICULOUS LOW INVESTMENT.

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A-8 WWII OR 96TH WWII

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IS THERE, OR WAS THERE EVER, A TRUE 24 HOUR HACKING BULOVA US MILSPEC MILITARY WATCH?? HELL NO! IMAGINE YOU ARE BEING RIPPED OFF AND GETTING RIPPED OFF AND RIPPED OFF ON AND OFF EBAY AND THE NAWCC AND OTHER ORGS ARE PARTICIPATING
AND EVEN THE WATCH FORUMS ARE GETTING A PIECE OF YOUR ARZZ AND THEY ARE EITHER STUPID OR IGNORANT THOUGH IGNORANCE IS NEVER AN EXCUSE WHEN FACTS ARE AVAILABLE SO WHY THE BS???? READ AND EITHER WEEP OR SHOUT FOR JOY IF YOU KEPT YOUR BUCKS…
I PLACED THE ABOVE BELOW DIRECT FACTUAL US MIL SPEC MILITARY LIST OF WATCHES AND DATES. THERE ARE MIL-SPC PAGES AND NONE HAVE A 24 HOUR MOVEMENT. OF ANY BRAND LET ALONE BULOVA.

BEFORE READING BELOW VIEW THE ABOVE AND BELOW SHEET, THEN READ ON.WE HAVE ASKED ON OF THE INTERNETS MOST ACTIVE IN BULOVA 24 HOR WATCHES TO SEND US SONE FACTS BUT HE HADSNOT.

A NOTE, WHILE THERE IS NO MIL-SPEC FOR A TRUE 24 HOUR MIL WATCH, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE REMOVING BULOVA CIVILLIAN 1960 24 HR MOVEMENTS AND PLACING THEM IN BOLOVA A-17-A HACKING CASES AND THEN OFFERING THEM FOR 5 TIMES THE PRICE OF A BULOVA MILITARY.

THE MIL-SPEC MILITARY LIST WITH DATES. IN ADDITION WATCH BELOW

 

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 NONE OF THESE ARE 24 HOUR DIAL TYPES
NONE HAD JUST 1 THRU 24 DIAL TYPES
ALL BULOVA HAD 10BNCH HACK NO 24HR
1950-1962

BULOVA-24HR-MILITARY-WATCH.html NO-BULOVA-24HR-MILITARY-WATCH.html
LINK TO FREE PDF WITH ALL MILITARY WATCHES MADE FOR US GOV MILITARY FOR VIETNAM WAR

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ROCK RESTORED

 VINTAGE 1961 STAINLESS BULOVA 3818A MILITARY HACK ORIGINAL MILITARY ISSUED STRAP AND ORIGINAL MILITARY VELCRO WITH COVER.  CASE BACK SIGNED RESTORE BY ROCK -WRIST WATCH ID = MIL-W-3818A SER AF6645-808-1407 BULOVA STOCK NO. 10BNCH CONT. NO. DA-36-038-ORD-21169M U.S.+ MOVEMENT SIGNED  10BNCH BULOVA WATCH CO USA M1 (1961)CONDITION FINE TO MINTY PROOF.


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WHILE BULOVA CONTRACTED STAR WATCH CASE CO TO BUILD THEIR CASES, THERE WERE OTHERS -DEPENDING ON THE DATE ….THIS IS NOT A STAR CASE BUT IS A PURE BULOVA .HACKING A-17-A BUT NOT A TRUE 24 HOUR WATCH BECAUSE BULOVA NEVER MADE A PURE 24HR MIL-SPEC WATCH FOR ANY MILITARY .. EVER PERIOD AND NEVER EVER MADE USA MILITARY WATCHES AFTER 1958/ THUS THE USA MILITARY NEVER EVER HAD ONE!

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THIS IS A TRAINING PAGE CONCERNING TRUE OR UNTRUE: USA 24 HR MILITARY WATCHES?

THAT MEANS ONE REVOLUTION EQUALS 24 HR RATHER THAN 12 HOURS.

Visit TIMEFRAUD.COM FOR MORE INFO….
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OFFER STATEMENT.

Beware of Sellers/Offers OF 24HR BULOVA MILITARY HACKING WATCHES….

ESPECIALLY with cases that have no ordinance information THAT DIFFERS FROM THE STANDARD INFO AT BELOW:

 

 

LISTEN TO ROCK, SEE THE A17A?

A17A DENOTES ITS TYPE = HACKING NAVIGATION

AND SPEC MIL-W-6433A  IS FROM THE SPC SHEET

THESE DENOTE THE SPEC SHEET. THAT IS THE FACT IT IS A TYPE A17A USA HACKING PILOTS WATCH FROM THE POST KOREAN WAR 1958+ . 6433A

EVERY WATCH MADE FOR THE MILITARY CORRESPONDS TO A SPEC SHEET, THESE ARE 10 TO 30 PAGE BOOKLETS CONTAINING EVERYTHING FROM MINUTE DRAWINGS TO SPECIFICATIONS DETAILING EVERYTHING IMAGINABLE, FROM SERVICING TO THE VERY PLACEMENT OF DIAL PARTICULARS TO CONTROL TESTING ETC. WITH A MILITARY HACKING AND FULL 24 HOUR VERSION A SPEC SHEET WITH A NEW SUPERSEDING COMBINATION WOULD HAVE BEEN REQUIRED. I PERSONALLY LOOKED UP THE FULL LIST OF SPEC SHEETS BOTH NUMERICALLY AND ALPHABETICALLY AS WELL AS BY DATING AND BY THE TYPE AS IN MILITARY TIME KEEPING AND UNDER EQUIPMENT. NONE EXISTS… 

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WEHICH NBECAME THE PRIME VIETNAMBASE VERSION


 

 …. the MODELS OFFERED THAT ARE 24HR? THEY ARE FAKE MILITARY……

NOTE DESCRIPTION CONTINUED:

Crystal: Original domed acrylic is in good condition, nice and clear. Some very light scratches. Beware of non-Star watch cases that have mineral crystals, which are not original. Movement: Mechanical True 24 hour movement. 10BNCH hacks, winds, and sets. Keeping good time, within 7 seconds of quartz watch after 1 day on bench. Beware of other Bulova movements altered to be 24 hour movements.

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Unless some one can show me a contract or MILSPEC that WITH A CORRESPONDING NUMBERING SYSTENM ON THE CASE BACK.. WELL.. ONLY THEN WOULD THAT DEMONSTRATE THE GOV INVESTED IN TRUE 24HR BULOVA WATCHES..

BUT THEN YOU NEED TO SHOW THIS OCCURRED ! CAUSE BULOVA STIOPPED SELLING TO THE US DGOV!

I MUST SAY THEY ARE FAKES. And, I am sure that no SPEC sheets exist due to the fact BULOVA LOST ALL DEALINGS WITH THE US MILITARY FROM 1956 THROUGH TO eternity….

In fact, their last contracts were the
1- A-172-0R 3818
2-3818A
3- THE BEGINNINGS OF THE FIRST DIVE WATCH WITH PLASTIC CYRYSTAL CAPABLE OF DIVING TO 300+ FEETTHAT LAST CONTRACT THEY DROPPED AND IT WAS TAKEN OVER BY
Tornek Rayville WHOM, UTILIZING THE ORIGINAL PROTOTYPE

AFTER THAT, THE US GOV HAD VIETNAM ON THEIR MINDS AND IN 1956 HAD DECIDED TO STOP THE REVOLUTION OF NIFTY NEW IDEAS, LIKE 24 HOUR HACKING WATCHES, AND STICK TO A 24 HR HACKING WATCH, WITH NO MAINTENANCE, SIMPLE 2 YEAR USE WITH , LIKE I SAID, NO SERVICE AT ALL. A THROW AWAY., THAT WAS 1956. SO THEY PREPARED THE SPEC SHEETS JUST FOR THAT. NOTHING FANCY LIKE 24 HR HACKING !!!!!!!!!! JUST KEEP IT SIMPLE. NO 24 HRS, NO NOTHING BUT HACKING. NO EXTRA JEWELS NO NOTHING BUT HACKING AND ABILITY TO SURVIVE EVERYTHING FOR 2 YEARS AND NO SERVICING. END OF LINE.

BULOVA WAS STUCK IN THE RUT. THEY SUBMITTED ZIP. LONGINES ANS SEVERAL OTHERS GOT TO WORK, BUT ONLY BENRUS GOT IT RIGHT. 7 JEWELS, SINGLE CASE, GUARANTEED TO LAST 2 YEARS COME JUNGLE OR SANDS,  STORMS OR RIVERS OR DROUGHT OR MOUNTAINS ….SO, THERE GOES THAT FAKE 24HR HACKING BULOVA THAT THE MILITARY IS ALLEGED TO HAVE PURCHASED.. WANT FURTHER PROOF 

 BELOW WORD FOR WORD:

FIRST CONTRACT FOR MARINE CORPS FOR A TOTAL OF 10,849 WATCHES @$28.28 EACH  OR A TOTAL COST OF $306,809.72. THE US MILITARY KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO BE AT LEAST THIS MANY MARINES IN VIETNAM IN 1961/1962. THE PRELIMINARY SPECS WENT OUT DURING THIS TIME. IN THE COPY WORD FOR WORD, WE HAVE BULOVA ARGUING ABOUT THE AWARD OF THE CONTRACT. NOTE HOW THE BULOVA FAILED TESTING AND THE FACT OF A NEW CASE DESIGN, AND HOW BULOVA CONTINUED TO PUSH “CASE BACK: DESIGNS.

TO BULOVA WATCH COMPANY

FURTHER REFERENCE IS MADE TO YOUR LETTER OF FEBRUARY 20, 1964, PROTESTING THE AWARD OF A CONTRACT TO BENRUS WATCH COMPANY UNDER REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL NO. AMC/A/36-038-64-490/NS), DATED FEBRUARY 7, 1964. THE RECORD SHOWS THAT IT WAS DETERMINED BY REPRESENTATIVES OF THE AIR FORCE, NAVY AND ARMY, THAT SPECIFICATION MIL-W-3818A, DATED MARCH 12, 1956, REQUIRED REVISION TO ACCOMPLISH THE FOLLOWING RESULTS:

 

A. REDUCE THE VARIETY OF GRADES AND TYPES OF WATCHES.

B. ASSURE CONSISTENT QUALITY OF ITEMS.

C. ELIMINATE TESTING REQUIREMENTS OF ONE YEAR AND SUBSTITUTE IN LIEU THEREOF A GUARANTEE PROVISION.

D. INCORPORATE A NEW CASE DESIGN.

ACCORDINGLY, THE SPECIFICATION WAS FORMALLY REVISED ON OCTOBER 17, 1962, AND IS IDENTIFIED AS MIL-W-3818B. SUBSEQUENT TO THE APPROVAL OF SPECIFICATION MIL-W-3818B, ALL SOURCES ON THE PREVIOUS QUALIFIED PRODUCTS LIST, UNDER SPECIFICATION MIL-W 3818A, WERE INVITED BY LETTER DATED DECEMBER 6, 1962, TO MAKE APPLICATION FOR THE SUBMISSION OF THEIR PRODUCT OF FRANKFORD ARSENAL FOR QUALIFICATION TESTING. UPON RECEIPT AND APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION AS REQUIRED BY PARAGRAPH 104 OF THE PAMPHLET ENTITLED “PROVISIONS GOVERNING QUALIFICATION,” SAMPLES WOULD BE AUTHORIZED TO BE SUBMITTED. THREE FIRMS SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS AND SAMPLES DURING 1963, NAMELY, BENRUS WATCH CO., INC., LONGINES-WITTNAUER WATCH CO., AND MATBEY-TISSOT WATCH CO., INC.

HOWEVER, BENRUS WATCH CO., INC., WAS THE ONLY SOURCE THAT SUCCESSFULLY MET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR APPROVAL. THEREFORE, THAT FIRM WAS FORMALLY NOTIFIED ON SEPTEMBER 16, 1963, THAT THE SAMPLES SUBMITTED WERE APPROVED AND THAT ITS PRODUCT WAS LISTED ON THE QUALIFIED PRODUCTS LIST FOR SPECIFICATION MIL-F-3818B. THE OTHER TWO SOURCES WERE NOTIFIED BY LETTER OF NOVEMBER 21, 1963, THAT THEIR SAMPLES DID NOT MEET MINIMUM SPECIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.

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ON THE BASIS OF MILITARY INTERDEPARTMENTAL PURCHASE REQUESTS FROM THE MARINE CORPS FOR A TOTAL OF 10,849 WATCHES, THE CONTRACTING OFFICER EXECUTED A DETERMINATION AND FINDINGS DATED FEBRUARY 2, 1964, AUTHORIZING NEGOTIATION UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF 10 U.S.C. 2304/A) (10) AND ASPR 3.210.2 PROMISED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES REPORTED AS FOLLOWS:

“A. THIS WATCH IS A QUALIFIED PRODUCT AND THE TIME REQUIRED FOR TESTING WOULD UNDULY DELAY DELIVERIES.

“B. THE INTEREST OF THE GOVERNMENT REQUIRES ASSURANCE PRIOR TO AWARD THAT THE PRODUCT IS SATISFACTORY FOR ITS INTENDED USE AND NO OTHER MEANS OF QUALITY ASSURANCE IS AVAILABLE.

“C. AMPLE SOLICITATION AND OPPORTUNITY WAS AFFORDED THE CLOCK AND WATCH INDUSTRIES, RESULTING IN ONLY ONE QUALIFIED PRODUCT, NAMELY, BENRUS WATCH CO.’


ROCK RESTORED

THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL WAS ISSUED ON FEBRUARY 7, 1964, WITH A CLOSING DATE OF FEBRUARY 24, 1964, TO BENRUS WATCH COMPANY, AS A SOLE SOURCE PREMISED ON THE FACTS SHOWN ABOVE. BENRUS QUOTED A UNIT PRICE OF $28.28 EACH FOR A QUANTITY OF 10,849 WRIST WATCHES OR A TOTAL COST OF $306,809.72. ON FEBRUARY 20, 1964, AN AMENDMENT WAS ISSUED EXTENDING THE CLOSING DATE TO FEBRUARY 27, 1964. THE PROCUREMENT ACTION WAS SYNOPSIZED, FOR SUBCONTRACTING ONLY, IN THE COMMERCE BUSINESS DAILY DATED FEBRUARY 17, 1964. AT YOUR REQUEST, YOU WERE FURNISHED A COPY OF THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL ON FEBRUARY 13, 1964.


ROCK RESTORED

YOU ALLEGE, IN EFFECT, THAT FRANKFORD ARSENAL IS ATTEMPTING TO CIRCUMVENT CURRENT REGULATIONS IN THE AREA OF COMPETITION AND METHOD OF PROCUREMENT AND HAS FAILED TO CLARIFY AMBIGUITIES IN THE SPECIFICATION, PARTICULARLY WITH REFERENCE TO THE GUARANTEE PROVISION AS SET FORTH IN PARAGRAPH 3.21 OF SPECIFICATION MIL-W-3818B, DATED OCTOBER 17, 1962.

ROCK RESTORED

YOU ALLEGE SPECIFICALLY THAT FRANKFORD ARSENAL, WITH KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR INTEREST IN THE PROCUREMENT OF BACK-TYPE WATCHES, CIRCUMVENTED PROCUREMENT REGULATIONS BY NOT OBTAINING COMPETITION.

THE RECORD SHOWS YOU WERE AFFORDED AMPLE TIME TO SUBMIT YOUR PRODUCT FOR QUALIFICATION TESTING AND POSSIBLE INCLUSION ON THE QUALIFIED PRODUCTS LIST. HOWEVER, YOU DID NOT SUBMIT YOUR PRODUCT UNTIL FEBRUARY 13, 1964, A LAPSE OF 14 MONTHS FROM THE DATE APPLICATIONS WERE ORIGINALLY REQUESTED. THE PRODUCT YOU SUBMITTED WAS REJECTED ON MARCH 11, 1964, FOR THE REASON THAT IT FAILED THE SHOCK TEST PERFORMANCE PRESCRIBED IN PARAGRAPH 4.8.9 OF SPECIFICATION MIL-W 3818B IN THAT OVER A PERIOD OF 20 HOURS THE WATCH GAINED 1 HOUR AND 22 MINUTES. THIS FAILURE WAS CONSIDERED A SUFFICIENT CAUSE TO REJECT YOUR PRODUCT AS NOT QUALIFYING FOR INCLUSION ON THE QUALIFIED PRODUCTS LIST. SINCE ONLY ONE OF THREE OTHER SOURCES WHICH SUBMITTED THEIR PRODUCT FOR QUALIFICATION TESTING SUBMITTED A PRODUCT WHICH PASSED ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF MIL-W-3818B AND WAS APPROVED FOR INCLUSION ON THE QUALIFIED PRODUCTS LIST, THE DETERMINATION BY THE CONTRACTING OFFICER THAT IT WAS IMPRACTICABLE TO OBTAIN COMPETITION, AND THAT A CONTRACT SHOULD BE NEGOTIATED WITH BENRUS, APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN PROPER.

YOU FURTHER ALLEGE THAT THE PROPOSED PROCUREMENT SHOULD BE CANCELLED AND THAT THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD PROCEED ON AN ADVERTISED PROCUREMENT TO ASSURE ADEQUATE COMPETITION.


ROCK RESTORED

AS INDICATED ABOVE, COMPETITION COULD NOT BE ATTAINED BECAUSE ONLY ONE SOURCE WAS ON THE QUALIFIED PRODUCTS LIST AT THE TIME OF THE INITIATION OF THE PROCUREMENT ACTION, AND SO FAR AS WE ARE ADVISED NO OTHER PRODUCT HAS SINCE BEEN QUALIFIED. IN OUR DECISION OF AUGUST 9, 1961, 41 COMP. GEN. 93, IT WAS HELD THAT WHERE THERE IS ONLY A SINGLE SOURCE LISTED ON THE QUALIFIED PRODUCTS LIST, THE PROPER METHOD OF PROCUREMENT IS NEGOTIATION IN LIEU OF FORMAL ADVERTISING. WE SEE NO VALID BASIS UPON WHICH A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION MAY BE REACHED IN THE INSTANT CASE.

ROCK RESTORED

IN ADDITION, YOU ALLEGE THAT THE GUARANTEE PROVISION OF PARAGRAPH 3.21 OF MIL-W-38188 IS UNREASONABLE IN THAT IT REQUIRES THE CONTRACTOR TO BE LIABLE FOR THE REPAIR OF WATCHES THAT FAIL TO MEET ALL SPECIFICATIONS FOR A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS, AFTER ACCEPTANCE BY THE GOVERNMENT, WITHOUT ANY LIMITATION OF REPAIR RESPONSIBILITY WHATSOEVER.

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SINCE THE THREE SOURCES THAT SUBMITTED THEIR PRODUCTS FOR TESTING DID NOT TAKE ANY EXCEPTION, OR REQUIRE INTERPRETATION AS TO THE GUARANTEE PROVISION IN THE SPECIFICATION, IT APPEARS THAT THOSE FIRMS WERE READY TO MEET SUCH PROVISION AND THAT THE PROVISION WAS CONSIDERED REASONABLE. ANY EVENT IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THE GUARANTEE PROVISION IS GERMANE TO YOUR PROTEST OR TO YOUR FAILURE TO HAVE A WATCH APPROVED FOR INCLUSION ON THE LIST.

ROCK RESTORED

AS TO THE ALLEGATION THAT BENRUS WATCH COMPANY IS NOT A MANUFACTURER OF WATCHES BUT ONLY IMPORTS CASES AND SELLS WATCH MOVEMENTS FROM FOREIGN SOURCES, WE ARE ADVISED THAT BENRUS POSSESSES MANUFACTURING FACILITIES IN THE UNITED STATES AND SWITZERLAND WHICH ARE UTILIZED IN THE PRODUCTION AND ASSEMBLY OF WATCHES AND, THEREFORE, QUALIFIES AS A MANUFACTURER UNDER ASPR 12-603.1. THE BENRUS PROPOSAL SHOWS THAT IT IMPORTS THE MOVEMENT AND DIAL SETTING, DIAL STEM AND SPRING BARS, AND THAT THE CASE, CROWN, ATTACHMENTS, PACKING MATERIAL AND JEWEL BEARINGS (TURTLE MOUNTAIN ORDNANCE PLANT) ARE ALL DOMESTICALLY PRODUCED. ITS COST DATA INDICATES THAT THE COST OF THE DOMESTIC COMPONENTS IS CONSIDERABLY IN EXCESS OF 50 PERCENT OF THE COST OF ALL COMPONENTS, AND THEREFORE THE ITEM MUST BE CONSIDERED A DOMESTIC SOURCE AND PRODUCT UNDER ASPR 6-101 (D).

ROCK RESTORED

 So, to say that Bulova created a Hacking 24hr Military watch any time between 1955 and 1965 is pure BS! THERE WERE NO SPEC SHEETS. NO CONTRACTS. NO INFO ON THE REAR CASES OF ANY OF THESE WATCHES OFFERING ANY FACTS TO STATE THAT THEY ARE HACKING 24 HR WATCHES… NOTE??? THAT???? FACT????

EVERY MILITARY WATCH THE US PROVIDES IT’S TROOPS HAS A CONTRACT, A SPECIFICATION “BOOK” .. WELL, IT IS AT LEAST A DOZEN TYPED PAGES LISTING EVERYTHING IMAGINABLE… THERE US NONE…. AND NO, IT DID NOT GET LOST… WE HAVE THEM ALL.

I RECENTLY NOTED A SERIES OF alleged SUPER RARE 24 HOUR MILITARY WATCHES BEING OFFERED. IT IS THE BULOVA A-17/3818A TYPES THAT CONCERN ME THE MOST, ESPECIALLY WITH 900.00 PRICE TAGS. OFFERS LIKE THE ONE BELOW ARE RAMPANT IN THEIR DEMAND FOR 1000.00 A POP.

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OFFER

For your consideration is an Excellent Authentic Vintage Men’s Bulova True 24 Hour
Movement Military Wristwatch. It is fully operational and the hack function is working. This watch is in very good condition with just a couple minor blemishes. This watch is a very rare find because of its 24 hour (hour hand completes 1 cycle/revolution per day) hacking movement and dial. Case: Excellent condition. All stainless steel, original, very crisp, 33mm wide, screw down back, military Ordinance information on case back. Some light scratches.

Beware of other sellers with cases that have no ordinance information and no Star Watch Case embossed logo on the case back, they are fake.

Movement: Mechanical True 24 hour movement. 10BNCH hacks, winds, and sets. ***Beware of other movements altered to be 24 hour movements, the only original 24 hour movements are the 10BNCH and the 10CNCH, which both have the hack mechanism.

THE ABOVE OFFER IS A FRAUD…….

 

 

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THE LAST TIME PIECE BULOVA WORKED ON BECAME THE TORNEK RAYVILLE ABOVE

 

 

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PROBLEM WAS/IS NO INFO WAS PROVIDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AS TO THE CASE BACK AS TO THE 24 HR PORTION ONLY
THE ORIGINAL HACKING GARDEN VARIETY A17A

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AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM
THERE IS/ARE NO FACT SHEETS, NO MILITARY SPECIFICATION SHEETS
AND, IN FACT, THE WATCHES BEING/SOLD HAD ONLY THE A-17 A-17A CODES
WHICH ARE ONLY FOR HACKING WATCHES: PULL STEM THE MOVEMENT STOPS.

A-17A IS A KOREAN WAR PIOTS HACKING WATCH AND NONE OF THESE WERE 24HR WATCHES PERIOD

THE US MILITARY  ARE TO THE POINT

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 ROCK RESTORED

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ABOVE IS AN AS 1187/1194 INTRODUCED IN 1945 TO 1950
MILITARY SUPPLY CO RELEASED A TRUE 24HR WRIST WATCH
WITH THIS MOVEMENT 6 YEARS BEFORE BULOVA

AS 1187 Features manual wind sweep second signature; shock device
1945: MOG, Avia, Mead Company, Swiss, 17 Jewels – AS, 1187, 1194, Brevet + Dep; Incabloc

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ABOVE IS A PARTS MOVEMENT WITH THE HOUR WHEEL + MINUTE WHEEL.
NOTE THE HOUR/MINUTE WHEELS AND HOW WIDE SPACED THEIR TINE ARE

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AN HOUR WHEEL FOR THE
NON 24 HR [SAME] MOVEMENT
ON THE center IS THE HOUR WHEEL FOR 24 HOURS

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NOTE, WE ONLY OFFER RESTORED WATCHES

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A TON OF WORK + THE MAIN WENT THIS AM

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ROCK RESTORED

SO, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND HOW A 24 HOUR
WATCH WORKS. SIMPLY TURN THE HANDS
TWO TIMES IN ONE DAY

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ROCK RESTORED

A-17A-MIL-W-3818A
[NOT A “STAR” CASE]

RESTORED BY ROCK NOT A 24HR WATCH
NOTE INFO ABOVE IN THE BULOVA AREA UNDER 10BNCH TYPE A-17-
LOOK AT “DIAL TYPE” THE 1-12 13-24 IS NOT A TRUE 24HR WATCH DIAL
WHAT IT MEANS IS THE 1-12 WERE OUTER CHAPTER + AN INNER 13-24
THEY ARE PART OF THE DIAL


ROCK RESTORED
ELGIN
ONLY ELGIN CAN RECEIVE CREDIT FOR A WWII WATCH LIKE THIS MADE UP VARIANT

SO, IS THERE A True 24 Hr BULOVA MILITARY? THERE WAS A 24HR WATCH BUILT BY BULOVA FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION. BUT NEVER FOR THE MILITARY AND NEVER HACKING! THERE ARE NO PRE-CONTRACT OR POST SPEC SHEETS W/ANY DETAILS FOR A 24 HR WATCH AND NO SPEC NUMBERS! NO INFO NO MILITARY CONTRACT NO SPEC SHEET CALLING FOR A BULOVA 24 HR MILITARY WATCH.

SO, WE KNOW BULOVA MAY HAVE OFFERED A CIVY 24 HOUR WATCH IN COMPETITION WITH SEVERAL COMPANIES ONLY

THOSE INCLUDED
THE AIRMAN
THE HELBROS [AS1187/1194]
MILITARY SUPPLY CO [AS 1187/1104]

THERE WERE ALSO TRUE 24 HOUR A DAY GMT WATCHES IN THE LATE 1950’S,

BUT, THERE WERE *NO 24HR ISSUE MILITARY WATCHES THAT WE CAN EVEN
HOPE TO POINT TO FOR KOREA [A-17] AND THE A-17-A + 3818A-

*ELGIN PRODUCED A WWII 24 HOUR MILITARY WATCH AND TIMER

IS THIS BULOVA A-17 / A 17A A FAKE 24HR MILITARY OR NOT

HERE IS/ARE 2 BULOVA 24HR 10BNCH HACK MOVEMENT FOR THE BULOVA 3818A

NOTE THAT IT IS STATED THE 10CNCH MOVEMENT IS STATED TO  DATE TO 1960-61 ERA 24 HOUR BULOVA WATCHES FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC???

NO FACT SHEETS, SPECIFICATIONS OR ITEM NUMBER FOR A BULOVA 24 HR MILITARY.

SO, SORRY, THERE WERE NO BULOVA 24HR MILITARY PERIOD,NO CONTRACTS/ORDERS

BULOVA LOST OUT ON THE MILITARY CONTRACTS STARTING IN 1956 THROUGH OUT 1966. SO WHEN WAS THIS ALLEGED HACKING 24 HR MILITARY WATCH MADE??? THEIR LAST CONTRACT WAS ONE FOR DIVE WATCHES AND THEY GAVE THAT ONE UP ALSI TO TORNEK WHO BUILT THE SEALS WATCH????

 

 BENRUS-3118BROCK RESTORED
BENRUS 3118/B

FIRST CONTRACT FOR MARINE CORPS FOR A TOTAL OF 10,849 WATCHES @$28.28 EACH  OR A TOTAL COST OF $306,809.72. THE US MILITARY KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO BE AT LEAST THIS MANY MARINES IN VIETNAM IN 1961/1962. THE PRELIMINARY SPECS BEGAN IN 1956 AND WENT OUT 1958/59. IN THE COPY WORD FOR WORD, WE HAVE BULOVA ARGUING ABOUT THE AWARD OF THE CONTRACT. NOTE HOW THE BULOVA FAILED TESTING AND THE FACT OF A NEW CASE DESIGN, AND HOW BULOVA CONTINUED TO PUSH “CASE BACK: DESIGNS.

TO BULOVA WATCH COMPANY

 

FURTHER REFERENCE IS MADE TO YOUR LETTER OF FEBRUARY 20, 1964, PROTESTING THE AWARD OF A CONTRACT TO BENRUS WATCH COMPANY UNDER REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL NO. AMC/A/36-038-64-490/NS), DATED FEBRUARY 7, 1964.

 

THE RECORD SHOWS THAT IT WAS DETERMINED BY REPRESENTATIVES OF THE AIR FORCE, NAVY AND ARMY, THAT SPECIFICATION MIL-W-3818A, DATED MARCH 12, 1956, REQUIRED REVISION TO ACCOMPLISH THE FOLLOWING RESULTS:

 

A. REDUCE THE VARIETY OF GRADES AND TYPES OF WATCHES.

 

B. ASSURE CONSISTENT QUALITY OF ITEMS.

 

C. ELIMINATE TESTING REQUIREMENTS OF ONE YEAR AND

 

SUBSTITUTE IN LIEU THEREOF A GUARANTEE PROVISION.

 

D. INCORPORATE A NEW CASE DESIGN.

 

ACCORDINGLY, THE SPECIFICATION WAS FORMALLY REVISED ON OCTOBER 17, 1962, AND IS IDENTIFIED AS MIL-W-3818B.

 

SUBSEQUENT TO THE APPROVAL OF SPECIFICATION MIL-W-3818B, ALL SOURCES ON THE PREVIOUS QUALIFIED PRODUCTS LIST, UNDER SPECIFICATION MIL-W 3818A, WERE INVITED BY LETTER DATED DECEMBER 6, 1962, TO MAKE APPLICATION FOR THE SUBMISSION OF THEIR PRODUCT OF FRANKFORD ARSENAL FOR QUALIFICATION TESTING. UPON RECEIPT AND APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION AS REQUIRED BY PARAGRAPH 104 OF THE PAMPHLET ENTITLED “PROVISIONS GOVERNING QUALIFICATION,” SAMPLES WOULD BE AUTHORIZED TO BE SUBMITTED. THREE FIRMS SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS AND SAMPLES DURING 1963, NAMELY, BENRUS WATCH CO., INC., LONGINES-WITTNAUER WATCH CO., AND MATBEY-TISSOT WATCH CO., INC.

 

HOWEVER, BENRUS WATCH CO., INC., WAS THE ONLY SOURCE THAT SUCCESSFULLY MET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR APPROVAL. THEREFORE, THAT FIRM WAS FORMALLY NOTIFIED ON SEPTEMBER 16, 1963, THAT THE SAMPLES SUBMITTED WERE APPROVED AND THAT ITS PRODUCT WAS LISTED ON THE QUALIFIED PRODUCTS LIST FOR SPECIFICATION MIL-F-3818B. THE OTHER TWO SOURCES WERE NOTIFIED BY LETTER OF NOVEMBER 21, 1963, THAT THEIR SAMPLES DID NOT MEET MINIMUM SPECIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.

 ON THE BASIS OF MILITARY INTERDEPARTMENTAL PURCHASE REQUESTS FROM THE MARINE CORPS FOR A TOTAL OF 10,849 WATCHES, THE CONTRACTING OFFICER EXECUTED A DETERMINATION AND FINDINGS DATED FEBRUARY 2, 1964, AUTHORIZING NEGOTIATION UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF 10 U.S.C. 2304/A) (10) AND ASPR 3.210.2 PROMISED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES REPORTED AS FOLLOWS:
 

“A. THIS WATCH IS A QUALIFIED PRODUCT AND THE TIME REQUIRED FOR TESTING WOULD UNDULY DELAY DELIVERIES.

“B. THE INTEREST OF THE GOVERNMENT REQUIRES ASSURANCE PRIOR TO AWARD THAT THE PRODUCT IS SATISFACTORY FOR ITS INTENDED USE AND NO OTHER MEANS OF QUALITY ASSURANCE IS AVAILABLE.

“C. AMPLE SOLICITATION AND OPPORTUNITY WAS AFFORDED THE CLOCK AND WATCH INDUSTRIES, RESULTING IN ONLY ONE QUALIFIED PRODUCT, NAMELY, BENRUS WATCH CO.’

THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL WAS ISSUED ON FEBRUARY 7, 1964, WITH A CLOSING DATE OF FEBRUARY 24, 1964, TO BENRUS WATCH COMPANY, AS A SOLE SOURCE PREMISED ON THE FACTS SHOWN ABOVE. BENRUS QUOTED A UNIT PRICE OF $28.28 EACH FOR A QUANTITY OF 10,849 WRIST WATCHES OR A TOTAL COST OF $306,809.72. ON FEBRUARY 20, 1964, AN AMENDMENT WAS ISSUED EXTENDING THE CLOSING DATE TO FEBRUARY 27, 1964. THE PROCUREMENT ACTION WAS SYNOPSIZED, FOR SUBCONTRACTING ONLY, IN THE COMMERCE BUSINESS DAILY DATED FEBRUARY 17, 1964. AT YOUR REQUEST, YOU WERE FURNISHED A COPY OF THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL ON FEBRUARY 13, 1964.

YOU ALLEGE, IN EFFECT, THAT FRANKFORD ARSENAL IS ATTEMPTING TO CIRCUMVENT CURRENT REGULATIONS IN THE AREA OF COMPETITION AND METHOD OF PROCUREMENT AND HAS FAILED TO CLARIFY AMBIGUITIES IN THE SPECIFICATION, PARTICULARLY WITH REFERENCE TO THE GUARANTEE PROVISION AS SET FORTH IN PARAGRAPH 3.21 OF SPECIFICATION MIL-W-3818B, DATED OCTOBER 17, 1962.

YOU ALLEGE SPECIFICALLY THAT FRANKFORD ARSENAL, WITH KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR INTEREST IN THE PROCUREMENT OF BACK-TYPE WATCHES, CIRCUMVENTED PROCUREMENT REGULATIONS BY NOT OBTAINING COMPETITION.

THE RECORD SHOWS YOU WERE AFFORDED AMPLE TIME TO SUBMIT YOUR PRODUCT FOR QUALIFICATION TESTING AND POSSIBLE INCLUSION ON THE QUALIFIED PRODUCTS LIST. HOWEVER, YOU DID NOT SUBMIT YOUR PRODUCT UNTIL FEBRUARY 13, 1964, A LAPSE OF 14 MONTHS FROM THE DATE APPLICATIONS WERE ORIGINALLY REQUESTED. THE PRODUCT YOU SUBMITTED WAS REJECTED ON MARCH 11, 1964, FOR THE REASON THAT IT FAILED THE SHOCK TEST PERFORMANCE PRESCRIBED IN PARAGRAPH 4.8.9 OF SPECIFICATION MIL-W 3818B IN THAT OVER A PERIOD OF 20 HOURS THE WATCH GAINED 1 HOUR AND 22 MINUTES. THIS FAILURE WAS CONSIDERED A SUFFICIENT CAUSE TO REJECT YOUR PRODUCT AS NOT QUALIFYING FOR INCLUSION ON THE QUALIFIED PRODUCTS LIST. SINCE ONLY ONE OF THREE OTHER SOURCES WHICH SUBMITTED THEIR PRODUCT FOR QUALIFICATION TESTING SUBMITTED A PRODUCT WHICH PASSED ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF MIL-W-3818B AND WAS APPROVED FOR INCLUSION ON THE QUALIFIED PRODUCTS LIST, THE DETERMINATION BY THE CONTRACTING OFFICER THAT IT WAS IMPRACTICABLE TO OBTAIN COMPETITION, AND THAT A CONTRACT SHOULD BE NEGOTIATED WITH BENRUS, APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN PROPER.

YOU FURTHER ALLEGE THAT THE PROPOSED PROCUREMENT SHOULD BE CANCELLED AND THAT THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD PROCEED ON AN ADVERTISED PROCUREMENT TO ASSURE ADEQUATE COMPETITION.

AS INDICATED ABOVE, COMPETITION COULD NOT BE ATTAINED BECAUSE ONLY ONE SOURCE WAS ON THE QUALIFIED PRODUCTS LIST AT THE TIME OF THE INITIATION OF THE PROCUREMENT ACTION, AND SO FAR AS WE ARE ADVISED NO OTHER PRODUCT HAS SINCE BEEN QUALIFIED. IN OUR DECISION OF AUGUST 9, 1961, 41 COMP. GEN. 93, IT WAS HELD THAT WHERE THERE IS ONLY A SINGLE SOURCE LISTED ON THE QUALIFIED PRODUCTS LIST, THE PROPER METHOD OF PROCUREMENT IS NEGOTIATION IN LIEU OF FORMAL ADVERTISING. WE SEE NO VALID BASIS UPON WHICH A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION MAY BE REACHED IN THE INSTANT CASE.

IN ADDITION, YOU ALLEGE THAT THE GUARANTEE PROVISION OF PARAGRAPH 3.21 OF MIL-W-38188 IS UNREASONABLE IN THAT IT REQUIRES THE CONTRACTOR TO BE LIABLE FOR THE REPAIR OF WATCHES THAT FAIL TO MEET ALL SPECIFICATIONS FOR A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS, AFTER ACCEPTANCE BY THE GOVERNMENT, WITHOUT ANY LIMITATION OF REPAIR RESPONSIBILITY WHATSOEVER.

 SINCE THE THREE SOURCES THAT SUBMITTED THEIR PRODUCTS FOR TESTING DID NOT TAKE ANY EXCEPTION, OR REQUIRE INTERPRETATION AS TO THE GUARANTEE PROVISION IN THE SPECIFICATION, IT APPEARS THAT THOSE FIRMS WERE READY TO MEET SUCH PROVISION AND THAT THE PROVISION WAS CONSIDERED REASONABLE. ANY EVENT IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THE GUARANTEE PROVISION IS GERMANE TO YOUR PROTEST OR TO YOUR FAILURE TO HAVE A WATCH APPROVED FOR INCLUSION ON THE LIST.

 

AS TO THE ALLEGATION THAT BENRUS WATCH COMPANY IS NOT A MANUFACTURER OF WATCHES BUT ONLY IMPORTS CASES AND SELLS WATCH MOVEMENTS FROM FOREIGN SOURCES, WE ARE ADVISED THAT BENRUS POSSESSES MANUFACTURING FACILITIES IN THE UNITED STATES AND SWITZERLAND WHICH ARE UTILIZED IN THE PRODUCTION AND ASSEMBLY OF WATCHES AND, THEREFORE, QUALIFIES AS A MANUFACTURER UNDER ASPR 12-603.1. THE BENRUS PROPOSAL SHOWS THAT IT IMPORTS THE MOVEMENT AND DIAL SETTING, DIAL STEM AND SPRING BARS, AND THAT THE CASE, CROWN, ATTACHMENTS, PACKING MATERIAL AND JEWEL BEARINGS (TURTLE MOUNTAIN ORDNANCE PLANT) ARE ALL DOMESTICALLY PRODUCED. ITS COST DATA INDICATES THAT THE COST OF THE DOMESTIC COMPONENTS IS CONSIDERABLY IN EXCESS OF 50 PERCENT OF THE COST OF ALL COMPONENTS, AND THEREFORE THE ITEM MUST BE CONSIDERED A DOMESTIC SOURCE AND PRODUCT UNDER ASPR 6-101 (D).

 

IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES WE FIND NO VALID BASIS FOR YOUR PROTEST, AND IT IS THEREFORE DENIED  

WE HAVE YET TO DISCOVER A CONTRACT OR ANY GROUP BUY BECAUSE THEY NEVER EXISTED

NOTE THE INFO ON CASE BACK FOR HACKING BULOVA PRE VIETNAM  – IF IT ALSO WAS FULL 24HR IT WOULD NOT HAVE SAME DESIGNATION INFO

I PLACED THESE MILITARY SPECIFICATION SHEETS BELOW TO DEMONSTRATE THE FACT THAT EVERY WATCH/STYLE PURCHASED BY THE US MILITARY HAD TO HAVE A SPEC SHEET. I HAVE YET TO FIND ONE, NOR A CONTRACT, NOR AN ID NUMBER. THESE OFFERS FOR BULOVA 24 HR WATCH MIL WATCHES DO NOT HAVE A “NUMBER” OR “CODE”. INSTEAD, THE WATCHES I HAVE SEEN HAVE THE A-17 A-17A AND 3818 A. I SIMPLY AM CONFUSED. FOR THE MILITARY WOULD HAVE HAD A CODE AND A SPEC SHEET. YOU DO NOT CALL UP A GEBNERAL AND TELL HIM YOU HAVE MILITARY WATCHES FOR SALE

I HAVE THE US MILITARY MARINES AIRFORCE ARMY NAVY WATCH [,MILSPEC] SPECIFICATIONS BEFORE AND AFTER THIS RELEASE. BELOW ARE TWO OF THE TWENTY SHEETS JUST FOR ONE WATCH. every watch style has had a complete mil specification

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U.S. NAVY SPECA MIL W 22176 A

NOTE IN 1940 THERE WAS THE

U.S.N. BU SHIPS
Canteen Style Diver’s Watch

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U.S. NAVY SPECA MIL W 22176 A

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U.S. NAVY SPECA MIL W 22176 A

THE FIRST AUTOMATIC DIVE WATCHES

The modern scuba diving watch was introduced to the public in 1954 at the annual watch trade show in Basel, Switzerland; BLANCPAIN AND ROLEX INTRODUCED THE FIFTY FATHOMS AND RO9LEX SUBMARINER RESPECTYIVELY..

With existing contracts with the Air Forces and Army, the US Navy FIRST entered into an agreement with the Bulova Watch Company IN 1956, and it’s Bulova Research and Development Laboratories, to develop and manufacture a new AUTOMATIC DIVE WATCH WITH PLEXIGLASS CRYSTAL AND 350 FEET CAPABILITY.

 BY 1964 THE BULOVA 666 (FEET) & 333 (FEET) MODELS WERE   LAUNCHED ALL FUTURE LINES AND MODELS OF THE FAMOUS NAVY MILITARY DIVE WATCHES DURING VIETNAM WAR AND ALL FUTURE DIVE WATCHES. WE CAN NOTE WITH PLASTIC/PLEXIGLASS CRYSTALS, INCLUDING THE DOXA.

ADDITIONALLY, THE FIRST OFFICIAL US MILITARY DIVER WATCH WAS IS THE RESULT OF THREE GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS FROM 1958,TO 1961, [MIL-W-3181 / MIL-W-22176 / MIL-W-22176A]. IT WAS IN 1961 THAT BULOVA, UNDER US NAVY CONTRACT TO PERFECT THE FIRST AUTOMATIC DIVE WATCH WITH PLEXIGLAS CRYSTAL, WAS FINALLY SUCCESSFUL AND IT PASSED ALL GOVERNMENT TESTS INCLUDING DIVING TO 392 FEET.

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WHILE STILL IN DEVELOPMENT,  BULOVA DROPPED THEIR CONTRACT & THE CONTRACT WAS TAKEN OVER BY BLANCPAIN, [“BLANCPAIN MI SPEC 1” ]WHO PRODUCED THE TR-900 DIVE WATCH. THE TR-900 DIVE MATCHED MUCH OF THE SPECS, CASING AND OTHER DESIGNS OF BULOVA’ FINAL VERSION, INCLUDING THE VERY LOOK AND DESIGN DOWN TO THE RADIUM MARKERS, MOISTURE INDICATOR, BEZEL AND BEZEL INSERT. ABOUT 1000 TR-900?S WOULD BE PRODUCED UNDER TWO CONTRACTS FOR THE NAVY DURING 1964 & 1965 AND ISSUED TO NAVY UDT FROGMAN TEAMS AND MARINE RECON UNITS DURING THE VIETNAM WAR. AROUND THE SAME TIME, BULOVA RELEASED THEIR PLEXIGLAS AUTOMATIC 666 DIVE WATCH FOR COMMERCIAL SALES AND WERE AVAILABLE AT MILITARY PX ANSD R&R LOCATIONS. IT IS IN THIS TIME FRAME THAT ELGIN PRODUCED THEIR FIRST AUTOMATIC WATER PROOF, ALL STEEL DIVE WATCH WITH RADIUM MARKERS.  

BY 1964-1967, DIVE WATCHES WERE IN HIGH DEMAND. ESPECIALLY AUTOMATICS. AND, WITH A WET HOT HUMID VIETNAM WAR BUILD UP— THE PX & R&R LOCATIONS WERE A HOT MARKET.

[NOTE: ALL THE WATCHES SHOWN WERE RESTORED BY ROCK]

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BULOVA, WHO ACTUALLY DEVELOPED THE FIRST AUTOMATIC DIVE WATCH WITH PLASTIC CRYSTAL UNDER US CONTRACT, RELEASED THEIR AUTOMATIC MODEL IN COMPETITION WITH THE 1964 ZODIAC SEA WOLF AUTOMATIC. WHICH WAS INTRODUCED AT THE 1964 WORLDS FAIR.

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  THE ABOVE ADVERT INFORMS IT’S READERS TO VISIT THE ZODIAC EXHIBITION IN THE SWISS WATCH PAVILION AT THE NEW YORK WORLDS FAIR AND THE ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN WAS HEAVY ON TV AND RADIO. THIS WAS 1964, IN FLUSHING QUEENS NY.  I WAS THERE AND VISITED THE PAVILION. IT WAS FREE. IF YOU READ MY BOOK, YOU WOULD READ HOW WE WENT TO 14 FREE EXHIBITS THE WATCH PAVILION, GENERAL ELECTRIC AND THE IBM EXHIBITS WERE THE BEST AND THE AMPHIBIAN CAR THAT WENT INTO WATER MADE IT A GREAT EXPERIENCE; ESPECIALLY FOR MY BROTHER WHO WAS 7 AND I , AT 11, WERE JUST KIDS BEGINNING A JOURNEY [“RUNNING AWAY”].

BOTH OF THESE, AS WELL AS OTHERS, WERE INVESTED IN BY US AND AUSTRALIAN SOLDIERS FROM PRIVATE TO OFFICER…I FACT, BULOVA MADE MORE SALES AND MONEY THAN BLANCPAIN, WHO HAD TAKEN OVER THE BULOVA CONTRACT AND UTILIZED ALL THE MAIN FEATURES OF BULOVA RESEARCH IN PRODUCING THE US MILITARY DIVE WATCH!

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WALTHAM [ABOVE], ANOTHER LONG TIME US MILITARY WATCH DEVELOPER, FOLLOWED WITH THEIR OWN MODEL WHICH WAS LARGER THAN THE BULOVA, ZODIAC OR ELGIN.

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ELGIN, WHO HAD SUPPLIED US MILITARY WATCHES SINCE WWI. RELEASED THERE OWN VERSION WITH STRAIGHT DROP LUGS, MEDIUM BEZEL IN A SMALL CASE SIMILAR TO THE OLD ELGIN WWII CASES. IT WAS ONLY LARGER DUE TO THE BEZEL.  

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AND, FINALLY, WE HAD BENRUS. BENRUS HAD, BY BEATING OUT BULOVA, ACTUALLY WON THE FIRST MAIN CONTRACT FOR MILITARY ISSUED VIETNAM SERVICE US ARMY AND AIR FORCE WATCHES AND ALSO A MILITARY DIVE WATCH. THEY WOULD INTRODUCE THE SINGLE CASE BENRUS. AT THAT TIME, DUE TO ITS SINGLE CASE DESIGN AND THE SIMPLY BEZEL WITH ELGIN STYLE LUGS, IT BECAME A HIT WITH THE GI’S. BUT THEY TOOK ANOTHER STEP. TO MAKE THEIR DIVE WATCH STAND OUT, THEY INTRODUCED A LIMITED 25 JEWEL INCABLOC MODEL. THEY UTILIZED A 25J A.S. EUBACHE AND A ETA 17J ROTOR ASSEMBLY TO PRODUCE THE LIMITED SELF WINDING ULTRA DEEP 666 FEET.

 

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